Forum:New Uncyc ports policy?

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Well, I say 'policy' but, of course, nothing is ever set in stone at Illogicopedia. I'm going through the backlog of unregulated Uncyclopedia ports, but there are so many I'm sure it'll take a while to sort the crap from the not-quite-so-crap. If you see me delete an article you wanted to keep, just let me know and I'll restore it for you to work on.

Since the quality of Illogico has greatly increased since the 'olden days', I propose we take the following stance on Uncyc imports:

Only import an article if you originally wrote and/or plan to work on it.

I know this can't always apply, as there are plenty of 'good' articles that have, and will be deleted from Uncyclopedia. But I really think we have to cut down on the imports because we want original content, not stuff spooned or blatantly stolen from other websites. We ain't the internet's trash/pastebin. -- Hindleyak  Converse?blogClick here! 11:47, 21 Yoon 2011 (UTC)

I agree. AS mentioned on the category talk page, I'm also for removing numbers of the ones already imported. Some of them are, indeed, crap. —rms talk 13:29, 21 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
O_O this doesn't mean you're going to get rid of Captain Anonymous, does it? Even though it was originally on Uncyc, I created it, so you don't have a right to do that... right? ~[thehappyspaceman] Dan the HedgehogThe Happy SpacemanTheHappySpacemanDanTahHedgehogYouTubedeviantARTTheHappySpaceman.com infodiscussioncontributionsenter the contest NOW!!!WTF?! Klingon IllogicopediaCaptain AnonymousTHE GRAFFITI WALL (beta version)IllogiNews: Snakes on a PlaneAn Article That Redirects To ItselfUnMDThe most important tutorial ever. 21:47, 21 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
I was going to move a couple of my articles over here, uncy people are too stodgy to want to hold them high and spit or glue all over them. But I am a moron in clothes and don't know how to import images from one wiki to another (and don't say "save them on your comppeduter, I don't know how to do that eighter). Can someone help me steal my pages pics over to here. Thanks. The one I think most comes here is "Animals with feet war with animals with no feet" or vica versa. Feet. No feet. Aleister 22:15 21-6-'11
@ Dan: No, it's your work, and since you are here, this is where your work belongs, etc. etc. We're not going to annihilate all of the uncyclocrap, just limit the amount we take in. It's getting a little out of hand. —rms talk 23:10, 21 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
@Dan: Don't worry, I'm taking into account how much input Illogicopedia users have had since the import. I don't want to go deleting peoples' well-crafted/honed work! :) -- Hindleyak  Converse?blogClick here! 13:17, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
@Aleister: Some of the pics might already be here, pilfered in 2009/10 when we moved over to the Uncle Pete mirror servers. As for mass image import, I'm not too sure we have a special page for that, so I'm thinking the old-fashioned way might be your best bet. Sorreee! -- Hindleyak  Converse?blogClick here! 13:39, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
Wha? There are only two pics, and yes, that's one of them! Whoo whoo. I think the other has gone up within the last year. It's that cartoon of smoking things. Just one, not a mass pic load. Wouldn't that be nice though? Aleister 20:59 22-6-'11

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I has several things to say:

  1. Yes, we are not here to be an aggrigator of or link farm to content of other sites. This is a major reason why pages that contain only embedded YouTube videos or links to other sites and nothing else will be deleted on sight. Though you can use content from other sites in an amusing way like I tried to do with "TIME CUBE."
  2. We do allow links, but not "just links." We allow links when there's a good reason for the link to be there.
  3. There is a difference between a link and a fork. We don't allow "just links" but we do allow content forks. ("fork" is here used in the software development sense)
  4. Forks of Uncyclopedia articles written by Illogicopedia regulars which they'd like to see developed further in a more random/nonsensical and less strictly humorous way (like I'm thinking of doing with "Grand Theft Cosmo") should be totally fine.
  5. AAAAAAAAA!
  6. Forks of Uncyclopedia content that was deleted for being too random and nonsensical should totally be put here. That was part of the original idea of the site.
  7. A limited number of undeveloped forks of really good/interesting stuff from other sites should be acceptable.
  8. However, we don't want so many undeveloped forks as to obscure or crowd out original Illogicopedia content.
  9. We don't want our namespace of ordinary mainstream subject titles to be dominated by the ideas of other sites over and above ours. For example, when I click "Fisher Price," I'd better see something substantially different from Uncyclopedia's lame one-liner or something's going to explode somewhere. Oh good, I do. We can take the Defcon level back down now, General. And don't worry! Your microwave Hot Pocket just beeped. That totally wasn't the missile launching sound. Or was it?
  10. I see no reason why anonymous IP addresses should be allowed to fork content onto Illogicopedia. Only registered users should be allowed to fork content in my opinion. Any fork by an anonymous IP address should be deleted on sight, unless it's obviously a really good idea.
  11. Far as I'm concerned, Illogicopedia:Commandments is written in stone. The other policy pages are kind of written in crayon. But basically, yes we do have policies. --Nerd42 04:04, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
    So what do you say to articles that fit on both, start out on one, then wind up on both because the author decides everyone hates it on the other one and copies it over after it fails VFH, where it also gets nominated for featuring, sits for awhile, accumulating comments that ire the author to get fed up and nominate it again on the other one, as a result of which it actually passes VFH after all, and then it passes VFF here, too, anyway? I ask merely out of speculation, of course. ~ Pointy.png 08:58, 22 Yoon 2011
    Something similar to that did actually happen in the past. I cannot recall the name of the article off the top of my head... but I suppose it would be a case of admin judgement. I mean, at Illogicopedia, nothing is concrete. Wait, did I already say that? -- Hindleyak  Converse?blogClick here! 13:32, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
I agree with everything you just said there, Nerd, especially the bit about the Hot Pockets. Illogicopedia:Import already sets out some guidelines, but I guess nothing much will have to be changed with regards to the wording; we'll simply take a harder line on over-importing to prevent a repeat of that time when we were flooded with hundreds of Uncyclopedia 2005 imports. I think it's just a case of taking it more seriously. -- Hindleyak  Converse?blogClick here! 13:32, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)

I think if VFH causes too many problems, we should replace it with a script to feature a random article from the site each time the front page is refreshed. That'd show you onery kids. Heh. --Nerd42 13:07, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)

Interesting idea. We should do that one day/week/year/decade. Now where's Fluffalizer when you need him? -- Hindleyak  Converse?blogClick here! 13:32, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
Well, the problem with that is the code would need to run on the server side or changed daily by some sort of bot. --Silent Penguin 16:18, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
...all of which flies right over my head :/ Can't even figure out how Wikipedia's featured article queue works, otherwise I would've tried to (ham-fistedly) implement it by now. -- Hindleyak  Converse?blogClick here! 18:59, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
They use {{#time}} to generate a target to a template ie, {{feature/22-6-2011}} could be todays feature, then that just changes each day. Admins then just create the template ahead of time. Maybe it's time to redesign/rejig the main page, it's looking like a bit of a jumble where it's been bashed about and reformatted?--Silent Penguin 19:25, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
Having just tested it, Template:Feature/2023/Oct/43/25/23/47/1698277625 seems to work quite well. the only downside is that the page cache needs purging for it to correctly change the times, so something/somebody would have to load the page with the argument ?action=purge in order to cause the target template to reload.--Silent Penguin 19:50, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
I expect Wikipedia probably has a bot that does that at midnight every day or something --Nerd42 22:02, 22 Yoon 2011 (UTC)
Cool, now all we need is a new featured article for every second of every day. -- Hindleyak  Converse?blogClick here! 12:23, 24 Yoon 2011 (UTC)