Illogicopedia talk:Image copyright tags

I'm thinking it might be a good idea to create one or two new templates for the different versions of the Creative Commons license. What say you people? -- Hindleyak  Converse • ?blog • Click here! 14:40, 17 Novelniver 2008 (UTC)

Could we have one of those "licensed under nothing, have a field day" templates that uncyc have? Jезка 15:22, 17 Novelniver 2008 (UTC)

If the template itself is licensed under nothing, we should be free to just go over to Uncyclomedia and steal it. :) Seriously, though {{pd-user}} (the "I shot this picture twenty minutes ago, do what you want with it" category) really ought to have a template. If one of us set out with a camera, say so - {{PD}} or not - credit where credit is due, s'il vous plait. The various Creative Commons licenses should have their own individual templates because the deeds themselves vary from PD (dedication to public-domain, Openclipart-style) to any combination of NC (non-commercial... or not), SA (others may modify if they share alike) vs. no modification permitted, to just CC-BY (do what you want, but provide attribution). The difference between CC-BY-SA and GFDL is actually less than the difference between the CC's public domain dedication and CC with BY, SA, non-commercial and no modifications. --Carlb 15:35, 17 Novelniver 2008 (UTC)

Agree with you on the first count. I'm a bit unclear about the rest though, might need some hilfe with zat area. -- Hindleyak  Converse • ?blog • Click here! 18:36, 17 Novelniver 2008 (UTC)

Links to Wikipedia, fair use vs. fair dealing and the like

If relying upon Wikipedia templates as examples, a few things to note:

• Wikipedia templates are often self-referential - they refer to portions of the Wikipedia project itself or to individual pages in the encyclopædia or its project: namespace. Check whether these self-references are relevant here.
• A link to wikipedia: here links to their mainspace, not their project: space. Use wikipedia:project: as the prefix if there's any legit reason to be linking directly to Wikipedia project namespace pages from Illogicopedia.
• The legal concept of "fair dealing" (Canada) is known as "fair use" (United States); the two are basically equivalent, except for wording. Importing verbatim claims of "this qualifies as fair use because the servers are in the United States" in templates may not make sense on a non-US site - even if "fair dealing" in Canada gives legally the same result. --Carlb 17:07, 17 Novelniver 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I laid out a skeleton set of templates on the old wiki to keep the Wikia police off our backs but never got round to really refining them. I'd need someone to give me a hand with the exact wording and laws: as you mention, the fair use thing was a bit vague because I was just copy pasting from Wikipedia. I also dunno if the fair dealings thing is a bit different in the UK/Canada - as far as I know it doesn't give the same leniency as the US Fair Use law. But, I dunno what's going on with that now - it's all a bit confusing anyways. -- Hindleyak  Converse • ?blog • Click here! 18:35, 17 Novelniver 2008 (UTC)