Forum:On the banning of Luis LOL

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Some of y'all may know of a new user, Luis LOL. He made some mischief resulting in a two week ban. Turns out he's 9 years old, and probably not "gifted". He behaves like a 9 year old. His cousin, Illogico, just informed me of his threat not to leave Illogico's house until I shorten his ban. Clearly he's too young for this wiki, and I for one don't want to mentor a career in drama. So, he's gone. Here is the place to debate, if there is any. (kaizum me) 02:44, 24 Arche 2017 (UTC)

At this very moment he must be a sleep, he went to the guest room and said his last words for today: "Tomorrow, when I wake up, I want my account unlocked!" In an aggressive tone of voice, I feel sad to have brought him and a bundle of confusion to the wiki, I think, unfortunately, I will have to take the words of Gruntled, he is kind of immature and needs teaching, it sounds weird myself Ask for the lock of my cousin... I think it will take time to mature... Illogico! _Illogically? 03:50, 24 Arche 2017 (UTC)

I agree completely about him being banned, he's way too immature, what with the socking and vandalism (he admitted it). Operator XY - (Conversal :: Editations - 7,284 and counting!) 4:07 PM, 24 Arche 2017 (AEDT)

Only a child would have the feeble-minded audacity to call an admin an idiot. Until he becomes old enough to understand the point of this website and to follow its rules, Illogicopedia cannot condone the frenetic and meaningless "contributions" of a 9-year-old. 05:41, 24 Arche 2017 (UTC)

True. I woke up now, he's still sleeping, but I think when he wakes up he'll give one of his tantrums... Illogico! _Illogically? 13:15, 24 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Hence the sockpuppetry? Operator XY - (Conversal :: Editations - 7,284 and counting!) 12:55, 25 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Almost that... Illogico! _Illogically? 14:52, 25 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Certainly that. He came back as a new user and perpetrated a little mischief. That puppet was promptly banned. My goodness, this is so exciting! (kaizum me) 17:32, 25 Arche 2017 (UTC)

THEORY: Someone told Luis that "idiot" is the English word for please. Cg098 (talk) 23:07, 25 Arche 2017 (UTC)

He's back, but it isn't XY011. Operator XY - (Conversal :: Editations - 7,284 and counting!) 04:31, 30 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I'm back and I want forgiveness. Theillogically (talk) 04:36, 30 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Sadly, not likely. Operator XY - (Conversal :: Editations - 7,284 and counting!) 05:16, 30 Arche 2017 (UTC)

I only ask that I unlock for a week to see the result. Theillogically (talk) 05:28, 30 Arche 2017 (UTC)

On the banning of Luis LOL redux

Luis has asked to return, promising to behave himself. Does anyone feel we should give him one more chance? (kaizum me) 21:54, 30 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Not sure, to be honest. He called an admin an idiot, and created a sock to vandalise. Operator XY - (Conversal :: Editations - 7,284 and counting!) 21:59, 30 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Point of order. Are users who are banned on Illogicopedia allowed to edit their own talk pages? Cg098 (talk) 22:58, 30 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps, perhaps not. Operator XY - (Conversal :: Editations - 7,284 and counting!) 23:49, 30 Arche 2017 (UTC)

Point taken. He created a new user and has used this name to ask. He stated who he was this time, at least. For the time being, he's been told to refrain from editing unless I personally tell him a consensus agreed to give him one more shot. As for being called an idiot, I don't take it personally. Indeed, it would seem the act was that of an idiot. Now, back to trolling white supremacist, doily-crocheting, Miata-driving, ramshackle haircut getting, Bolivian marching powder snorting, egg sucking amateur herpetologists with 3 extra eyebrows and giblet heads. One of those Chan boards or something. (kaizum me) 00:06, 31 Arche 2017 (UTC)

His father had been injured when he was 8, and he stayed in the hospital for months, when he left he was in severe aftermath, since he is stressed and wants to be accepted in everything the way he is, give him one last chance, one last... Illogico! _Illogically? 01:10, 31 Arche 2017 (UTC)

I was just trying to figure out if it was really necessary for him to make a new account. And I'm also confused about why he wants to edit Illogicopedia so badly. Cg098 (talk) 02:30, 31 Arche 2017 (UTC)

I am also curious about this. (kaizum me) 14:14, 31 Arche 2017 (UTC)

I created a second account because I wanted to defend myself here, please accept my new beginning, I apologize for my vandalism and offenses, accept me! Theillogically (talk) 22:56, 1 Arply 2017 (UTC)

Youre not supposed to be posting on this wiki. I told you that very clearly. (pulls out notebook, flips to Luis' page, scribbles "cannot follow simple, clear instructions"). (kaizum me) 01:05, 2 Arply 2017 (UTC)

Shall we get on with it?

I've been very patient with this kid. I will be even more patient, giving a week from tomorrow to vote if he should stay or go. This is not the normal democratic election one might expect. All votes will be considered advice to me in the decision. Like George Bush, I am the decider.

Voting

• meh - He's bothered me a bit, and if he stops, I don't really care if he stays. I don't expect much in the way of content. If we do let him stay, I will be keeping my ban hammer at the ready. (kaizum me) 01:21, 2 Arply 2017 (UTC)
• He's a bit too young. - Children are inherently problematic and would certainly not grasp the kind of illogic we have here in Illogicopedia. 01:31, 2 Arply 2017 (UTC)
• Has demonstrated by his actions that he will not be fully cooperative. Cg098 (talk) 19:53, 2 Arply 2017 (UTC)
• Just a cousin, he did not give me any password and if it happens to me, I will be intolerant of it, I am favorable to his unblocking, he caused a lot of confusion and if he stays blocked it will bring more confusion still. Illogico! _Illogically? 21:01, 2 Arply 2017 (UTC)
  • Illogico: there seems to be a language problem as well as a behavior problem. The fact that Luis is your cousin doesn't matter. Whatever is going on with passwords does not matter. I don't understand what your talking about when you say "I will be intolerant of it"I, and it does not matter. However, the threat of more confusion unless he's unblocked has made up my mind. You will notice I'm being kind here. I'm not swearing, I'm explaining everything carefully so everyone understands. That's because I'm a nice guy. Now, nice guy Gruntled is gone, Luis is gone and you will be too if you don't drop this whole thing right now. (kaizum me) 23:50, 2 Arply 2017 (UTC)
    • Yes, I do not want to become a "defendant"! I'll stop that. Illogico! _Illogically? 00:25, 3 Arply 2017 (UTC)
• He had a chance and blew it. Nope. Operator XY - (Conversal :: Editations - 7,284 and counting!) 06:58, 3 Arply 2017 (UTC)
• Permaban. And any account that turns out to be associated with the same user should be banned in the future. Budding vandals, just learning the ropes, in the throes of youth, figuring out how to cause the most trouble while avoiding punishment by clever use of whining, are like bubonic plague ... only less fun. Snarglefoop (talk) 14:06, 3 Arply 2017 (UTC)

Luis is permabanned

Just in case anyone is not clear, Luis is banned for good. We wish him luck in his endeavors. (kaizum me) 10:19, 4 Arply 2017 (UTC)