Forum:Let's make somebody an admin (tasty vote rigging may ensue)

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So I woke up this morning and I noticed a large amount of unplesantness on Recent Changes before shortly realizing we only have 1 admin who isn't really a corpse. I know this site doesn't really receive that much activity but I do believe we should perhaps consider promoting 1 or 2 individuals to the divine status.

Taken from active users the following rollbackers are still around and kicking:

• Awesomedecks [126 actions in the last 30 days]
• Flyingcat [1,017 actions in the last 30 days]
• Fonchezzz [320 actions in the last 30 days]
• Frosty [46 actions in the last 30 days]
• Snarglefoop [772 actions in the last 30 days]
• T3canolis [676 actions in the last 30 days]

Bolded items indicate Uncyclopedia admins that are probably up to no good or something like that. Discuss yo. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 23:30, 1 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Ooh, way to cause a ruckus, Frosty. --T3 23:50, 1 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

But, if I must say something on the matter, I'd point to my updating of Illogicopedia:Potentially Talented Individuals, the star-system, Illogicopedia:Featured articles/Archive, expansion/re-classification of stubs, and frequent activity in the Department of Limelight. But I'm not sure another admin is necessary, or that I would be qualified. --T3 23:55, 1 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Who, me? What in the name of Flying Saucer Utility Mouse am I doing here? And why is my name bold? (Nevermind, I'm an illiterate rotten shoe.) I haven't been kicking that much here, really, because it always seems to make a nasty smell and all these flies jump out at me. I reckon there's a dead elasmosaur around somewhere, though I haven't the foggiest clue where... that's neither here nor there, however. I concur with T3PO that another admin is not necessarily necessary, and considering my conversation with Silent Penguin and my large collection of toilet pasta, I should think that trying to acquire an additional admin would result in an inordinate amount of dead fish. Probably undead fish, actually. The kind that glow in the dark and eat fishermen. You wouldn't want that to happen, would you? ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 18:55, 2 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

As I have been saying on many-a-thread, we have gotten a lot of great work done on here recently, however, it will all be for naught (just as a new admin would be) if we don't actually populate this place with users. I don't know how to do it, but that should be our top priority, and when we have enough where the need for another admin presents itself, we'll go from there. --T3 05:57, 5 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

People don't use Wiki's anymore. I blame the rise in teen Alcohol consumption. *shakes fist* ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 10:22, 5 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Count me out. There's a reason I've been here so dang long and never was even considered to be an admin. I like to write, not do site upkeep... I recieve enough respect round here without adminship, too. I have no interest in the responsibilities that come with being an admin... i mean I dont even know how to do it anyway. I love illogi and all, and will do anything to help it flourish... but maybe we don't need more admins? idk. Im not a doctor. You guys are right though... I do wish more people came around these parts. even uncyclopedia is in our situation. Its not our fault... wikis were just a thing of 2007. At least we still have eachother, amirite?--|Fonchezzz| Quacking| 14:31, 5 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Considering the horrible, mouldy mess I just went through on Uncyclopedia that resulted in my name becoming timid and no longer worthy of boldness, I think we've found ourselves yet another reason why I belong in the garbage collector with the fish rather than on the admin pedestal. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 20:24, 5 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

As to the point about no one using wikis anymore, I have a somewhat unique viewpoint. Illogicopedia is literally the only wiki I have any significant contributions to. Because of this, I have always viewed it as just a site I used rather than one of many wikis in the Wikisphere. The point I'm trying to make, although I don't know the veracity of it, is that, much like Taco Bell learned to Think Outside the Bun, we need to Think Outside the Wiki. Every time I've pitched Illogicopedia to anyone, I always call it a "comedy site-type thing". The appeal of Illogicopedia is not in its wiki-ness; it's in its amusing content and nonrestrictive nature. Only so many people would go on a wiki where they can post bizarre, amusing articles. Almost everyone would go on a site where they can post bizarre, amusing articles. Now, where do we go with that information? Hell if I know, but I think it's important. --T3 20:41, 5 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Hm, interesting. Perhaps we should make this place less like a wiki, then? We could install VisualEditor, LiquidThreads and such, which might make it more usable, or it might cause drama... or both. Or maybe we could have some kind of supplementary project. No, I have no idea what I mean by that. Maybe you know. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 20:49, 5 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

What I mean is to look to expand site-recognition outside of the Wikispehere. Now, as to how to do that, I have no clue whatsoever. --T3 23:08, 5 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Ah, alright then. What comes immediately to mind is distributing flyers like awareness pamphlets or sticking them to stuff like lost cat posters. I think we had some kind of advertising campaign a while back - maybe we could try revisiting that. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 00:26, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Hey hunams. I'm back. I may not be the most active hunam here (because, heck, I'm not even a hunam at all, and there isn't any here either), but I do come on here a few times a month. I'm not sure if I count as being active, but I'm going to post anyways. Posting makes octopi proud! тяιρρуƒℓσωєя (talk) 02:05, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

This whole discussion reminds me to ask, who runs the Illogicopedia Twitter? Because I have a lot of experience on Twitter (I may have 16.5K+ tweets), and would be glad to use it for the powers of IllogiSpansion. --T3 06:57, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

• Hey, if I get to be an admin, do I get to click on block links and, like, make blocks? Kewl. Sortof. Or not so kewl. Because the lusers I wanna go block are all on other wikis. I don't suppose I could use the fact of being an admin here to go and block them there, could I? That would be like super kewl! Snarglefoop (talk) 03:35, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

  Hey, is management experience helpful for being an admin? Because I used to be a manager! Once upon a time. (Unfortunately I kindof got kindof a little bit, like, desysopped, if you know what I mean, 'cause I kind of stank at it, but it was experience, that's for sure! Or should I say an experience. So it should count! Right?) Snarglefoop (talk) 03:35, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate how you went out of your way to make a bad case for you to be admin. It takes an asshole to make himself seem like a great candidate, but it takes a true idiot to make himself seem like a horrible one. --T3 05:29, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

...sigh... I know it's the case (via "original research" in Wikispeak) that a joke at a funeral falls on the floor like a dead rat. I guess maybe this is another such occasion. Oopsies. Snarglefoop (talk) 07:11, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I know you were joking. I was just "going along with it," which is something that doesn't communicate well through text. --T3 08:05, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Is there a funeral here? Oh dear, I suppose we ought to stop taking our antidepressants, just for a little while so we can pretend to cry. Instead of babbling about the pretty colours and the talking mushrooms, and dancing on tables, that is. But if we stay off them too long we'll get right back to cutting ourselves, and we can't have that, oh, no. It gets the place all full of blood. Yuck. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 16:01, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I have been really hesitant to say this because I know we all have a life outside this website and I don't want to sound like I am guilt-tripping anyone, but honestly we wouldn't even need to talk about electing new admins if the ones we already have would visit more often. Plus, I can't remember the last time I saw a bureaucrat. @Marzipan (talk) 08:12, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Next time we see a bureaucrat, we should get him to give Readmesoon his rights back. I think he'd be happy to add himself to the list of admins who aren't corpses. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 15:55, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I agree on the Readmesoon situation, and would like to add that it's natural for some of the administrators to move on with their lives from Illogicopedia, but in that case, they need to be replaced. Obviously, we should try to retain as many admins as possible, but even when I joined this site in 2008, two of the administrators had already disappeared. --T3 20:43, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

RMS Was/is an admin? What happened during my absence? Also who was already gone by 2008. T3?--|Fonchezzz| Quacking| 20:47, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Readmesoon was made an admin during your absence. (Keep in mind, I was absent for a lot of it, too.) By the time I joined, Asema and Fluffalizer were largely inactive already. --T3 20:51, 6 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Hey der... so while the consensus seems to be that a new admin might not be the solution to our problems, maybe we could seek out some new things to get the site rolling again? There are a few things lurking from our inactive period of last year and the years previous... Like.. there are a few articles up for feature that could be taken down because theyve been totally stagnant for a year or more... There are those awkward unofficial nominations for illogicopedian of the month. How about featured images? I'd like to see that up and running again. What the hell is awsum of the month anyway? I dunno, bananaman. There's just stuff lingering that maybe if we did a little cleaning it would make the site more inviting once the hypothetical newcomers come...--|Fonchezzz| Quacking| 19:10, 8 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Chezzfon, so I'm gonna take it upon myself to use my eons of spare time to do that. --T3 21:47, 8 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I agree with all that stuff, but I'll be on vacation for part of August so I'm afraid I'll be eating forgetfulness fruits rather than furthering the goals of the Great Muffin. Wait, where did the muffin come from? I thought it was supposed to be a banana. Now I'm all confused. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 00:37, 9 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I suck

Apparently my idea is unpopular. This is ok. Edit articles and eh... the spam will probably get deleted later. Or better yet, make the spam with hilarious titles into hilarious articles. That also works. Also I'm just a terrible person for creating this forum. Admins are the worst thing ever. —Frosty ☃ 12:50, 9 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

• We need at least one active bureaucrat. ?pedia doesn’t need 24/7 bureaucratic oversight, but we do need at least one Vamp to log in a couple of times each month and make sure everything is working correctly and check to see if anyone has any problems. I don’t know what is going on in the lives of the Vamps, but they have seriously been MIA for a long time now.
• We need one more administrator. We either need to add an admin or have one of our current admins check on the site more often. I help out when I can and I honestly don’t mind, but I am only one guy and my talents are limited. I’m fine when it comes to easy stuff like deleting spam and updating the front page with featured articles, but if something broke or went wrong, I would probably have no clue how to fix it. Also, it’s not good to just have me being the final say on things, this is a group project and there needs to be other admins to give their take on how things need to go. @Marzipan (talk) 06:05, 10 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Honestly, I'd volunteer (I do check-in enough), but I wouldn't know how to fix something broken, either. --T3 06:09, 10 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

And that brings up another problem: admins cannot make other admins. Only bureaucrat can do that and all of our bureaucrats seem to be inactive for the most part. @Marzipan (talk) 06:24, 10 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Problems, problems, problems. We're the Jay-Z of wikis. --T3 07:41, 10 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I vote T3. He's reliable, been here a while, knows some stuff. Does other stuff.--|Fonchezzz| Quacking| 12:11, 11 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I'm starting college in less than two weeks (in a new city, nonetheless), so I really don't know about my consistent availability. With that being said, if I were an administrator, I'd certainly edit enough to keep up any duties I had. --T3 20:20, 11 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

Going back to school will be an issue for me as well. But I go to skool in the middle of nowhere (northern maine, all there is to do is get lost in the woods) Illogicopedia may take a back burner to studies, but people still use back burners... I mean, I do. --|Fonchezzz| Quacking| 14:01, 13 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

They have people in Northern Maine? That's news to me. --T3 21:10, 13 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

On moving beyond "wiki"

Things have come a long way since the days of "Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense." Wikipedia remains at the top for most Google searches, but wikis in general do seem to be losing much of their popularity. A lack of innovation in the software may be one major reason. It hasn't kept up with Google Drive/Docs. Users of that can say, "Edit conflict? What's that?" and you've got to admit they have a point, because they can totally do simultaneous editing and all kinds of features that MediaWiki just hasn't kept up with. If a new platform emerged that was more Google Docs-like, with simultaneous editing and other current generation features, which was at the same time just as easy or easier to use then I'd be all for starting to move much of our content there.

The ability to have a separate site for content facing the public and content being edited by contributors is something many MediaWiki users have wanted throughout the history of the software, but which has never really been adequately answered by the various solutions to the problem.

P.S. real life has been beating me upside the head with a wet trout so often that I haven't had time to even check Illogicopedia much, let alone be a decent administrator. Sorry guys. But I am still interested in the site and yeah, it probably needs more admins. --Nerd42 (talk) 16:34, 14 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I think that the best proof that this site needs at least one more administrator is that you feel the need to apologize for "real life" getting in the way of administrating this wiki. You shouldn't have to feel bad about that. I don't think anyone would disagree that real life is much more important than Illogicopedia. However, if you have the appropriate amount of admins, an admin wouldn't have to feel guilty about taking some time away.

P.S. I hope you get through any of the problems real life is dealing you. --T3 21:50, 14 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

REAL LIFE IS A MYTH. Ok. I nominate T3 for adminship. --|Fonchezzz| Quacking| 12:53, 15 Ergust 2014 (UTC)

I take it someone was supposed to express an opinion on this. Here's an opinion. It's highly content-free and will kill you to death if you try to eat it, but it's an opinion, darnit, and it's all I've got. On the subject of myths, a more or less reliable source tells me that to make a myth is no more a lie than to plow a field; it is disturbingly silent on the subject of ploughing a field, however, which all good Englishmen should be doing instead of plowing it: this has led me to conclude that sliding doors must never be used as substitutes for salt. Does that shed any light on the bottomless pit of Whatever, or will the socks continue to be sacrificed? ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 01:51, 7 Serpeniver 2014 (UTC)