Forum:Really, seriously, actually moving, for real this time

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And after the move we'll have forum creation boxes that only put one 'Forum:' at the beginning of the title. It'll be amazing.

You all will just have to hold off editing while the move is happening (no need to stop before, though), Seppy'll update the server the URL points to, and then everyone can log in again once it's moved and if everything goes according to plan that will basically be it, as far as you're concerned. Should be sometime around this weekend, but we haven't sorted out a specific date yet. I do know it should take less than two days to fully run, however.

Yup. -— Athyria 05:11, 3 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

It moved. -— Athyria

Notes

• Account import no longer works. You will need to recreate your account, except this is also broken, so please use a temporary different name and poke Athyria to restore your correct username and rights.
• If you get a weird formatting or database error, try purging the page (append ?action=purge to the url string) and see if that fixes it. (Even if it does fix it, you may want to leave a note here about it because it might be caused by a larger problem, however.)

Problems and stuff to fix

• In-page CSS breaks if it contains comments

  Someone needs to fix the extension, or verify if it's just Tidy-related and if so punch Tidy in the face. -— Athyria 06:01, 27 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Missing pages

Here's one: OoOoOo ANGRY RYAN! It obviously existed, because there's a vff page for it, and yet it wasn't deleted - no log entry thingy. I'll get the rest up here if/when I find them. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 21:25, 21 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

I suspect that this is actually the page. Or at least when I search for OoOoOo ANGRY RYAN! at Wacky it redirects me to Ryan. --Mars Cadbury (talk) 06:46, 22 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

Could be. It says in the history that something was merged in from Ryan's handwriting, which apparently never existed either. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 21:20, 24 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

Wonder if the missing pages are history merge related. -— Athyria 07:58, 25 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to export pages off Wikia, or have they completely disabled that? -— Athyria 01:39, 29 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

Actually I looked at the wackypedia history and there is definitely a history to that page, it was not moved but rather redirected to Ryan. So I have no idea what's become of it here or why. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 00:50, 8 Farbleum 2014 (UTC)

• Check compatibility with CSS extension and transclusions/DPL includes

  Someone should do this; seems CSS may not work when transcluded, or transcluded multiple times? See flyingcat and VFF. -— Athyria 07:58, 25 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

  Also an issue on Uncyclopedia. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 21:58, 19 Arche 2014 (UTC)

• Old contributions/log entries for returning users may not appear in their special:contributions/log lists.

  IDs don't match. All old (unowned) revision userids are now set to 0, but there is no way for a recreated account to take ownership of old stuff. Except from what I understand, this shouldn't matter? If it does it could also be a regression in MediaWiki. Someone please confirm something, if possible, at some point, maybe. -— Athyria 00:32, 6 Farbleum 2014 (UTC)

  It seems to be fixed now. Look at Special:Contributions/Nerd42 and Special:Contributions/Zombiebaron. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 16:11, 6 Farbleum 2014 (UTC)

  Those I updated manually because I'm a dumbarse, so they don't actually mean anything. >.< -— Athyria 08:06, 8 Farbleum 2014 (UTC)

• Some files from http://commons.uncyclomedia.co don't work

  See Chiropractor Jesus for example - the file that shows up as a little grey line, File:JesusDances.gif, is from commons.uncyclomedia.co. When you go to the file page it looks fine. There are more of these in various places; no pattern I can see, though it seems to be fairly common. I've seen a similar bug on ShoutWiki and Carlb so I think it's something to do with not properly handling shared file repositories. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 13:20, 4 Yoon 2014 (UTC)

• Broken images possibly caused by the recent software update.

  After our recent MediaWiki software update, several images appear to have been lost or broken. For example the logos for the French, Portuguese, and Netherlands Illogicopedias all refuse to appear, and I am sure there are more broken images scattered about. @Marzipan (talk) 11:38, 29 Yoon 2014 (UTC)

  You mean on the main page? Looks ok to me there. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 14:29, 29 Yoon 2014 (UTC)

  Mmmmm. That's strange, they were all broken and stuff last night. Oh well, glad whatever it was fixed itself. @Marzipan (talk) 00:51, 30 Yoon 2014 (UTC)

  That may have been during part of the upgrade itself. It was done in parts, or something, with initial background database stuff, then some more obvious database stuff, and then some job queue stuff or something. I'd be more specific, but I don't really know what I'm talking about. -— Athyria 04:58, 30 Yoon 2014 (UTC)

Resolved or quasi-resolved

• Deleting/blocking admins who haven't logged in yet show up as my IP rather than their name

  No idea why it does this. Also meant to report it earlier but it slipped my mind. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 03:35, 10 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

  Something about how the logformatter works argh I'll try to fix it later. -— Athyria 00:02, 27 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

  A fix is planned. Someone make sure someone actually runs it. It involves chucking data out of the database. -— Athyria 07:58, 25 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

  Why, it is fixed! That's...wow. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 00:31, 8 Farbleum 2014 (UTC)

• VFF is weird

There are parser functions sticking out and looking like code instead of doing what they're supposed to, there are templates looking like {{template}} instead of doing their templatey thing, the css code from Athyria's sig is showing on the page and the picture that links to her talk shows up three times instead of one, and my sig looks like someone threw a bunch of nowiki tags into it at random - the <choose><option> tags are out in the open along with the lists of words from {{noun}} etc, and the <span> tags don't work. And since there's all this stuff on the page, it takes a really long time to load. Nothing else seems to have these issues. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 00:13, 17 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

And I changed my sig so it doesn't show up all funny. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 00:17, 17 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

And just like that, it started working again. Weird. Maybe if I have too much funky code in my sig it breaks things. But it shouldn't. Why does it break it? ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 00:22, 17 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

This edit seems to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I wonder what it is about that edit. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 01:05, 17 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

And this revision broke, but the next one didn't. Also, fwiw, the bit where I make the links not have an underline when you hover over them doesn't work on the vff page. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 01:22, 17 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

Don't do crazy stuff with your signature, then. (There seems to perhaps be a real issue there with the CSS and/or DPL extensions, though, so I've added it above.) -— Athyria 07:58, 25 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

• User:Nerd42 can't log in
  • I am a completely unrelated clone who happens to share the same DNA but is otherwise a neutral uninvolved party. --Nerd43 (talk) 17:08, 23 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)
    • This seems to have happened with a lot of accounts, including mine. I don't know how to fix it except to wait; I waited a while and was eventually able to log in, but for some it doesn't seem to be so easy. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 20:52, 23 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)
      • I get "Unknown error when logging in to the remote wiki." It's possible I might've forgotten the password. It was a long time ago. I applied the password I think I remember. --Nerd43 (talk) 21:39, 23 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)
        • I got that too. You could have put the password in just fine and it would still say that. According to Athyria it's something to do with carlb's servers not responding properly, as she explained below. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 23:21, 23 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

Okay, try just recreating the account now. Looks like imports no longer work so I've disabled it entirely. -— Athyria 00:02, 27 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

When I try to login, it says there is no such user as Nerd42. When I try to register as Nerd42, it says the username is already in use. --Nerd43 (talk) 01:54, 28 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

Dammit, someone is going to SUFFER. And it's probably me because now I have to figure out how to make this horrible patch not be a giant pile of suck. -— Athyria 06:49, 28 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

Even if you can't fix the general problem right away, could you just fix my account? I'm kind of important. Or maybe not, but I'd like you to anyway. :) --Nerd43 (talk) 17:28, 30 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

Still not fixed :( --Nerd43 (talk) 21:18, 9 Ditzimber 2013 (UTC)

You need to recreate the account. All old accounts have been lost. Or is that failing too? Because Zombiebaron says it should work. -— Athyria 22:21, 9 Ditzimber 2013 (UTC)

• User:Xappa cannot login as well. What is happening?

I'm really confused. And I can't recreate myself either. I am crying. --Xappa (talk)

It is a common problem. Did you change passwords? The reason I ask is it might have reset your password to an older one you used to use before the server move. --Mars Cadbury (talk) 16:58, 29 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

I don't think so. It just says that the user "Xappa" does not exist. But my stuff is all still here. --Xappa

Well, I think you should be able to create another account if you want until we get this worked out, or you can keep editing anonymous. We have had this problem with several users so you are not the only one. Mars Cadbury (talk) 17:11, 29 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

I THINK I FIXED IT NOW BUT I MAY NOT HAVE. Er. I hope so? Sorry about that. -— Athyria 07:09, 8 Ditzimber 2013 (UTC)

Nope. I still can't login, recover login details or create a new account. There is no user by the name "Nerd42." The username "Nerd42" is in use. But apparently not by a user with that name. And it's bloody 2014! Will HealthCare.gov get fixed first? --Nerd43 (talk) 06:07, 6 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

• Math formulas not working

  For example: ${\sqrt {4}}=2$. (IIRC Belarusian Uncyclopedia has the same problem.) ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 02:16, 13 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Yer buggrit. -— Athyria 05:14, 13 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  SOLVED! Yeah. dvips was borken or else not installed. Doi.Blottobot (talk) 05:44, 27 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• User:flyingcat can't log in

  Agh, crap. The account data is only imported from the old site on login, and when his server goes down (which it apparently partially has) that means we can't import. >.< I have no idea what to do about this, either, since he refused to just give us the damn data properly. -— Athyria 01:09, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Yay, it works now! ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 19:24, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Awesome. -— Athyria 20:51, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Remove .com fullurls for .org (there are like 20 of them) (bot/editing task)

  .com still goes to carlb's (the old one) since he owns that domain, so let's just make it disappear. -— Athyria 06:40, 7 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  That seems to have been done. Going to http://illogicopedia.com redirects to en.illogicopedia.org. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 19:29, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  I stuck a redirect in the js there when we moved (if only his mw were up to date; it would have worked without js too), but you're right, that's probably good enough at least for now, especially since I updated a few others anyway. -— Athyria 20:51, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Deal with removal of Extension:DynamicFunctions (editing task/possibly hopeless)

  Apparently only one thing uses it, though. (Removed because it was a security risk or something.) -— Athyria 06:40, 7 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Meh. Someone can come up with a solution later if they want to. -— Athyria 20:51, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Replace {{#logotipo}} with {{#setlogo}} (there are like 50 of them) (bot/editing task)

  It's different functionality so I can't just write a hook or something, but this new one is smarter and more secure. And easier to use. -— Athyria 06:40, 7 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Done. -— Athyria 20:51, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Size changes in revision histories are wrong (server-side problem)

  ...and I can't find the script to fix it. -— Athyria 06:40, 7 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Don't know if this is particularly helpful, but what seems to have happened is that every edit is treated as having created a new page - the size changes are all the size the page was as of the revision, and minor edit marks have disappeared. I think Uncyclopedia had the same problem at one point after the fork was set up from what I can see from some - but not all - edit histories. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 19:45, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  I'll get someone who was paying attention there and then to look into it here and now, then. -— Athyria 20:51, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Fixed. -— Athyria 22:28, 11 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• No listed bureaucrats or administrators

  I don’t know if this is an actual problem or just something purely cosmetic, but according to our statistic page we have no bureaucrats and only 2 administrators, myself and Athyria. --Mars Cadbury (talk) 01:52, 11 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  The others haven't imported yet, so they don't show up. And you're right, this is an issue, but I'm not sure what to do about it. -— Athyria 02:11, 11 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Then again we'll probably need to put in dummy placeholder accounts for centralauth anyway, so that'll probably fix it for anyone who still hasn't imported. Be nice if people would do so faster, though - it probably won't remain possible forever. But that wouldn't be in line with the site's present activity levels.

  Anyway, RESOLVED LATER or something. >.> -— Athyria 03:38, 11 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Special:Random is being stupid (?)

  Should probably fix itself after things get edited and stuff. I hope? -— Athyria 06:40, 7 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Seems ok...? ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 19:24, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  At this point I do notice it seems to go to the same pages over and over, namely Shady, Minutes and Waffle monster. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 19:45, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Yeah, something got wonked. Maybe I set the random values wrong or something. -— Athyria 20:51, 8 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  It's still acting up. It seems to only want to take you to articles that have been edited/created after the server move. Mars Cadbury (talk) 07:41, 9 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Fix script running now. -— Athyria 22:28, 11 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Bizarre logged out article formatting glitch

  I'm not even really sure how to phrase this, but when I look at certain articles (such as Dark Souls, Cole Phelps, or Vidja game) while I am logged out they appear glitched and buggy with words and images all over the page. I have no clue what is causing this or how to fix it. --Mars Cadbury (talk) 10:10, 14 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Purging the page will solve the immediate problem, but it won't stop it from happening again - that's the mobile version, and apparently basic caching and mobilefrontend don't play nice. Oh dear. -— Athyria 16:23, 14 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Special:Globalblocklist doesn't exist

  I think global blocks don't affect this wiki now since it's not on carlb's servers. I may try blocking my IP address with 'anonymous only' unchecked to see if it still stops me from editing here, but I'm pretty sure it'll just let me edit. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 03:06, 18 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Right; this are entirely separate from carlb. Even stuff that is designed to be used cross-server is disabled, though - we couldn't even use the common file repository because it was too slow. -— Athyria 04:03, 18 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Template:UB/Editcount is broken

  I changed the code to something like this. It works but only if the user has logged in. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 04:08, 27 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  And that should be fixed as well once we set up dummy accounts, which is on the general to-do list for all sorts of reasons, but may or may not happen this year. -— Athyria 06:01, 27 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Censoring no longer works

  Censored words are no longer censored. --Mars Cadbury (talk) 09:19, 18 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  For some reason comments no longer work in in-page css. I have no idea why. -— Athyria 23:35, 18 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  And now the censoring seems to be working, so... --Mars Cadbury (talk) 17:06, 21 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Oh, right, I updated that template. Problem is it seems to be a symptom of a larger problem with the CSS extension itself. Unless BB fixed it when he was mucking around with it before or something. -— Athyria 17:16, 21 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Two pages are apparently missing

  No idea what they are or why they're missing. It was originally three, but one was my talkpage and that I noticed. If you find one, say so? >.< -— Athyria 06:40, 7 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Update embedded Youtube videos to use correct syntax (List of youtube uses)

  Articles with accompanying Youtube videos (such as Notch or Cole Phelps) no longer display the videos. --Mars Cadbury (talk) 07:10, 12 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Ahahahahah carlb made up his own syntax? This is funny because the original Wikia extension's syntax actually was internally consistent with the rest of MediaWiki, and he went against that, or at least chose another extension that did.

  Anyway, we're using the Wikia one now, which is a lot simpler and more secure - Notch should just use <youtube>S33vL0zkT0s</youtube> instead of that large mass of stuff it has, for instance. See mw:Extension:YouTube#Use for more information.

  I'll try to make up a full list of things that need updating in a bit, though I'm a bit leery on actually doing it since I can't test it and make sure it's actually working since I don't have flash installed (Flash is horrible. I don't want it. GRRRR.). -— Athyria 16:13, 12 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  I think this one is fixed. I went through the list on the other page, converting the <youtube> tags. Somebody should go after me and make sure I Did It Right™ Blottobot (talk) 04:35, 25 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Add /w to fullurls (bot task)

  Carlb set up his servers like Wikia does, with the wiki in the root, but that's not very good practice and just causes problems so as good wikipedians we copied wikipedia I mean we read the manual and did what it said. Yes. -— Athyria 06:40, 7 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Bizeebeever (using user:Blottobot) is working on this as he can. -— Athyria 21:26, 12 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Yes. Yes he is.Blottobot (talk) 05:41, 30 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

• Spambots

  What else is new? -— Athyria 03:32, 11 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  May add some sort of site-specific captcha questions, and restrict page creation to specific namespaces for new/unregistered users... we'll see. -— Athyria 00:22, 18 Octodest 2013 (UTC)

  Egh we're working on it and it sucks but it's not really a move-specific or even ?pedia-specific problem. -— Athyria 00:02, 27 Novelniver 2013 (UTC)

User:Nerd42 still can't log in

• Create new account: "Username entered already in use. Please choose a different name."
• Recover password: "There is no user by the name "Nerd42""

Still. --Nerd43 (talk) 17:07, 24 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

Looks like it hit a spam filter because spambots like that kind of name. It's disabled now, account created and info sent. If more comes up, add a new thingy, of course. >.< -— Athyria 07:58, 25 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all outta gum. --Nerd42 (talk) 23:59, 26 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if this bothers anyone but me, but Nerd42's old contributions don't show up anymore. This is probably because the account got recreated and the old contribs went with something that's not being recognised as the new account. You can also see this with Special:Contributions/Zombiebaron and u:Special:Contributions/SPIKE. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 05:05, 28 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

It's the same problem as with the logs up there. Or same fix. At least. -— Athyria 00:32, 29 Jeremy 2014 (UTC)

Hi, um

I just wanted to do something simple on here, and now I find myself unable to log in as me, but also unable to become me. It's very weird. -T3 (talk) 23:12, 18 Yoon 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, this seems to happen a lot. You couldn't create an account with the username T3canolis? Account importing is apparently disabled, so you should be able to... but then I don't understand this stuff very well. Anyway, it's good to see you around. Welcome back. ❦ Flyingcat (meow?)fr: 00:25, 19 Yoon 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't know how much I'll be around. I'm glad to see you're still kicking it here. --T3 (talk) 02:08, 19 Yoon 2014 (UTC)